Dean Radin - Psi Research (1/12)
Coast to Coast am 6-26-09
Filling in for George, Art Bell talked to Dr. Dean Radin, Senior Scientist at the Institute of Noetic Sciences, about advancements in psi research and mass consciousness studies. He said the implications of this phenomena are frightening. A number of groups at prominent universities are currently engaged in psi research, and there are likely programs in Russia and China, Radin added, declining to share further details about what he knew about them. Radin discussed Princeton University’s Global Consciousness Project, which looked at how random number generators called EGGs (Electro-GaiaGram) were affected by major world events. According to a paper published last year by Peter Bancel and Roger Nelson, there is a correlation between how the EGGs responded, for example, to a natural disaster or terrorist attack, suggesting that mass consciousness and the event are somehow linked. The primary effect occurred over land masses and distance seemed to matter, Radin pointed out, as there were larger correlations with EEGs close to the events than the ones that were distant. Radin shared results from a study he performed that looked at the relationship between moon cycles and the psi abilities of individuals playing casino games. He noted that people won slightly more during a full moon. He informed Art about a portable Random Event Generator created by a student from Princeton. He said it was based on the same patented device employed by the Global Consciousness Project and could be used by Coast listeners for their own field consciousness experiments. Radin also covered Lynne McTaggart’s Intention Experiment, how ESP might be related to quantum entanglement, mind-activated technologies, and his recently published article on UFOs, as well as the “love study,” in which he looked at whether a person’s beneficial thoughts/emotions could cause a physiological change in the body of a loved one.
Duration : 0:10:14
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Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
I still can’t get …
I still can’t get it when you say “you can have all the “evidence” in the world and still have nothing at all”.
What do you think of precognition test going on?
What are the counter explanation for it?
You know about the random generation of pictures.
Go to “watch?v=qw_O9Qiwqew”. Look at about mid way of the video.
I’m not discussing about the comments dean made but rather the data the present.
Please let’s stick to this debate, I ope that both of us will see flaws in their ideas and improve.
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
salt.
salt.
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Hey, I’m always …
Hey, I’m always game to some debate, but neither of us can prove either way that PSI exists. As I mentioned before, you can have all the “evidence” in the world and still have nothing at all. Especially, if your one that just wants PSI to exist. What I mean is that whatever you read something about “PSI” you’ll believe without questioning what you have in front of you. I’m just saying that until the is real tangable evidence that can be repeated then everything should be taken with a grain of
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Opps i just read …
Opps i just read your comment that you believe that psi is a possibility.
however my opinion from your replies make e believe that you don’t.
If you are looking the how and why of “psi”, i can’t debate on that just like a quantum professor cannot debate on the “how and why” of quantum physics(to some extent).
Me.
I accept that there is significantly enough data to show that psi(definition?) is definitely prove to occur, that is till someone prove me wrong or show that there is fraud :p!
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
I’m not a complete …
I’m not a complete open minded person, on the spot unfortunately experience showed me that i’m very hurt at the idea that people can show me that i’m wrong.
However i “try” to be reasonable as i don’t wanna live in lies.
Just as you said you don’t believe that psi exist.
This will show that you will not look at the same way as me, and vice versa.
But debating on aspects or specific point will help us progress, that is if you really want to have knowledge instead of worship.
You wanna debate?
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Are you being …
Are you being sarcastic or are you trying to make a point?
In any thesis you will find elements that show that people are never 100%(can’t be proved anyway) open-minded.
Being open minded or not is, a bit like you said, mostly judge by our own standard.
However we can judge to some point whether the author is being close to the middle and when he start to fluctuate(or course this is done so by assigning a neutral opinion, excluding the conclusion).
If you want to claim something then alright:
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
I can almost bet …
I can almost bet it’s all done by “open minded” people…right? I can’t take the word of people that call themselves opened minded or self-proclaimed scientists. Not saying that they don’t have the credentials, but they do have biases and a need for PSI to be true. I need hard evidence from both sides. From REAL OPEN MINDED INDIVIDUALS. I will, however, take a look.
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
I don’t understand …
I don’t understand your point here.
Please take a look at the summary given on “Precognition” and also the laboratory results.
Maybe there is a misunderstanding between us or either one or us is mis-informed.
If you’re not sure about the test i can summarize( though i can’t account for any mis-interpretation or if the information has been manipulated) .
In summary, the test has been repeated on by skeptics and believers alike and achieve mostly the same result.
Please state you point clearly.
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Or something …
Or something moraculious to happen in the public eye or in the media(in real time of course). Otherwise mainstream science wouldn’t even take the time to investigate PSI. Please, don’t misunderstand me I believe PSI is a possibility, but just a person wanting something to exist doesn’t make it exist.
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
I can look at …
I can look at dozens for experiment and without these experiments carrying the same result in another lab it really doesn’t count for much. In science for something to be proven valid it has to be repeatable and have similar results. Not 15% out of 100%, but 85% out of 100%. It is not to say the smaller results don’t count, but without these two criteria you might as well not bother taking them seriously. We need experiments done by both like minded and unlike minded scientists.
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
There is an actual …
There is an actual definition of open-mindness.
From what you are saying i think you mean that one will consider someone open minded if he is on the same idea with you, correct me if i’m misunderstanding.
I don’t know if you tried to make a point or using personal attack here but please keep the debate friendly and let’s argue with facts.
The best “Empirical” evidence for psi is believe to be “precognition”.
I will debate on it if you wish and we will judge if you are really open minded!
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Testimonials only …
Testimonials only go so far with me. Maybe it’s because of TV commercials and their so called testimonies. For it to count for me is a person that completely doesn’t think PSI exists and is out to prove it false, but is fair. People that you call open minded are simply those that are on the same page as you. <–(this isn’t open mindedness).
dreamdimensions said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
huh?
huh?
0pteryx said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
“The Corps is …
“The Corps is mother, the Corps is father.”
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
There are a lot of …
There are a lot of books that have both philosophy and research(data) on parapsychological evidence.
Try a simple(a bit hating one), victor zammit free downloadable books.
The book has a lot of flaws and is somehow biased on some points, but overall it contain a good summary of experiments done on parapsychology.
And furthermore it has some links for further reading.
Spirits1234 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Thanks a lot for …
Thanks a lot for uploading, can you recommend me any books on parapsychological research(not the testimonies).
dreamdimensions said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Look to the …
Look to the laboratory experiments, see what you make of them.
thinker900 said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
Tell me when they …
Tell me when they make an actual break through that can be televised or proven over and over again. If not than this video does nothing to prove that PSI is real. It will just suggest that it’s possible just like every PSI believer has.
13LIGHTER said :
July 5, 2009 at 9:12 am
thanks for …
thanks for uploading!
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